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I am a 27 year old woman living in the suburbs on the East Coast. I commute into the city every day to work as an early childhood education teacher. Tell me about your background. I grew up on the West Coast and stayed in the area to go to college. After college, I moved to the East Coast and got my masters degree in early childhood education. I am now working as a teacher teaching children ages 3-4 at a very high-end (and super expensive) children’s school on the East Coast. Many famous celebrities send their children here so it's quite normal for us to bump into them occasionally. How do you define rich? Being confident and having peace about your financial situation. There’s no fear in your life about money. Did you grow up with money? How did your childhood conditions about money affect how you behave? I did not grow up with money and would characterize my family as being more on the lower-class end. My dad is much older than my mom and didn't work when I was growing up while my mom worked jobs in a clothing factory or as a waitress. When I was growing up, all my mom wanted to do was save money. My mom was very concerned that we would never have enough money to survive or enjoy life, which I think is common of the 1st generation immigrant experience (they immigrated from China before I was born). It made me frugal but my parents never taught me financial literacy so I've had to learn that through other venues (high school class, Learnvest, etc). I would say that the frugal environment I grew up in is what makes me frugal today. At this point in my life, I’m starting to send money to my parents every month because they don't have anything saved for retirement and are living off the social security my dad gets. I'm also paying my parents' phone bills, utility bills, etc. Did your parents give you money when you were growing up? What about for school? I have never felt deprived, but I think it's because I didn’t want a lot of things. Now that I think about it, I remember they would give me a quarter every week when I was 7-10. It's not really an allowance but it's something! The college I went to paid for everything. It is an extremely well-known and wealthy school on the West Coast with generous financial aid packages. If your parents make less than $200,000 in total, the school will pay for everything - tuition, board, etc. Do you still have school loans? I owe $28,000 in loans to the graduate program I went to for early childhood education . Once I graduated, I signed up for a standard monthly payment plan, and that is how I will pay off my loans. Where did you learn about investing? I don't invest at the moment but would like to in the future. What does your family situation look like? My dad doesn't work and my mom works up the odd job. They get by from my dad's social security. My dad's health insurance is provided by Medicare, and the apt they live in is government subsidized. They don’t have retirement accounts and expect that I will provide for them, which is scary to think about. How are you teaching your 3-5 year old students at the school you teach about money? The students I teach have very wealthy parents and even at their age, understand that life is transactional, and that money can buy you a lot of things. We play money games at school where we give them money and they can buy things at a pretend grocery store. Do you feel like you are living paycheck to paycheck? If so, do you feel that way due to your lifestyle? I don't really feel like I'm living paycheck to paycheck but certain months are tighter. For example, during the holidays, I have more bills because I have to pay for flight tickets back home and presents for my friends. I'm unfortunately not saving money now because everything I earn is going toward rent, food, paying back my school loans, helping out my parents, etc. What was your most regrettable purchase? A $100 juicer I bought a few years ago. I've since realized that I only it use twice a year, so it was a terrible waste of money. I bought it at the time because I was getting a ton of free fruit from school, and thought that I would be making healthy juice drinks every day for myself. What was your best purchase? My Sorel snow boots! I bought them a few years ago and they're still in great condition. Having great snow boots is critical for East Coast winters. Do you actively contribute to a retirement account of any sort? The school that I work at has a 401(k) that I put money in. They will match what we put in. Do you feel like your lifestyle reflects your income bracket? To be honest, I could be more frugal. I spend a lot of money hanging out and getting dinner with my friends because I have a "I'm young and living/working in the city” mentality. To be fair, though, the city I live in is really expensive and is one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world. It's hard to live here and not take advantage of everything that's offered to us. Have you ever jumped income brackets (either going from low to high or vice versa) and how did your lifestyle change? Yes, when I began working. I went from making no money for the longest time to making money! I was pretty excited. Do you talk to your peers and family about money? I talk to my mom about money. Whenever we visit China, my parents' friends will always ask me how much money I'm making and about my financial habits. They really have no shame in doing so. Do you worry about money? I don't worry about money for myself but I worry about my parents' financial situation. Do you splurge on anything? If so, what was the last splurge and how much was it? I bought a new Macbook Pro last November but this was because my previous Macbook had been stolen. I initially thought I could just make do with my school computer but eventually got frustrated and just bought a new computer for myself. Do you have a plan to make more money? No. I just hope my income increases. What would it take for you to feel like you are completely rich? There are world riches, such as buying a house or car. But these things are temporary because I will eventually die one day and hopefully go to Heaven. I trust that God will provide for me during my life here on Earth. In terms of money, what was something you did in the past that you could do differently? I wish I learned about finance earlier. What is your strategy for moving forward now in regards to your big goals in life? I would like to creating a budget, revisit my budget monthly, and stick to it!
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Money Talk with a SF Startup Communications Director Moonlighting as a College Admissions Consultant9/7/2015 Who are you and how old are you? I am a 26 year old working as a communications director at a tech startup in SF. I also work as as college admissions consultant on the side. Tell me about your background. I grew up in the Midwest, went to the college in the Midwest, went to the West Coast for my masters program, and then began working as a technical writer at a tech firm when I graduated. A few months ago, I switched jobs and became a communications director at a tech startup. I also work on the side as a college admissions consultant - helping high school students get into a great college. This is something I've been doing for the last few years and something I really enjoy. What does your financial situation look like? If you don’t earn money through a “normal job”, how do you support yourself? I make half my salary at the SF startup and the other half as a college admissions consultant. I actually took a pay cut to move to the SF startup but I get greater job satisfaction from the startup. The number of clients I've gotten as a college admissions consultant has also increased over the past year - my current clients keep referring me to their friends and I work with people from all over! How do you define rich? Having a home with a big background where my dog can run around in. I live in downtown SF, and it's completely different than the suburbs of the Midwest, where I grew up! Did you grow up with money? How did your childhood conditions about money affect how you behave? My parents are high level government employees and were financially comfortable and smart with their money. I never got an allowance but my parents gave me money whenever I needed it (going on a school trip, etc). They never talked about finances with me but I was personally very frugal about everything. This is something I learned after seeing my dad's parents save as much as they could, and seeing that my parents were responsible with their money. I would get several hundred dollars for every birthday I had. I saved this money and eventually saved up to several thousands of dollars which I used to pay for part of my grad school tuition. I am someone who doesn't take money for granted. Did your parents give you money when you were growing up? What about for school? Other than my birthday gift money and getting (reasonable) amounts of money whenever I needed it, I was also very fortunate in the fact that they paid for my entire undergraduate education. I also then got several thousands of dollars as a graduation gift, which also went toward paying off my graduate school bills. Do you still have school loans? No - I've been in the free and clear since this past January 2015. I had a partial scholarship which paid for half of my grad school tuition and I paid off the other half with my graduation gift money and birthday gift money. I took out some loans for living expenses and when I had an unpaid internship but I worked hard to pay all that off as quickly as I could once I began working. Where did you learn about investing? The only thing I've ever invested in is my 401(k) at the previous company I worked at. The company matched what we put in so I contributed as much as I could. Other than that, I don't do investing. What does your family situation look like? My parents are still government employees - my dad took on a more flexible job and my mom is an independent consultant. My sister is an urban planning. Do you and your spouse/partner have similar financial habits? My boyfriend is very responsible with money. He makes a decent amount as an engineer and saves/invests his money. He's not as frugal as I am though! Have you started to put money away for your children's college tuition? If so, how much is it? I don't have children yet but once I do, I will definitely put money away for their college tuition! I will set aside money for not just tuition but also the college admission process, which can be pricey. Ideally, I would want to pay for my child’s entire undergrad education. Do you feel like you are living paycheck to paycheck? If so, do you feel that way due to your lifestyle? No, because I a decent amount of money sitting in my bank account. My salary at the tech startup pays for my rent, utilities, all that stuff, while the money I make as an admissions consultant goes straight toward my bank account. I am very frugal and careful about having a financial cushion. I love seeing my bank account grow! What was your most regrettable purchase? I traveled to Europe a few months ago and spent $3000 on that trip in total. I really enjoyed the trip but wished I had spent less money. What was your best purchase? I recently discovered this amazing Mexican grocery store in SF. I go here to do all my grocery shopping and estimate that I spend $20/month on food. It sounds crazy but really is doable. It helps that I'm a vegetarian so I eat a lot of pasta, rice, and vegetables. Do you feel like you have a financial habit that’s out of the norm (or at least something that others have commented on)? At the tech startup I work at, we get free lunch everyday. So I eat lunch at the office and bring home leftovers (food that's sitting around at the end of the day) for dinner. I try to encourage other people to do this too so we don't waste food but I think they like eating out. Do you feel like your success now has anything to do with luck or being in the right place at the right time? I'm very lucky that I came from a family that could afford to send me to college and pay for it. My college roommate and I had the same job in college but she had to pay for college herself and also send money back home to her family every month. There were even periods of time when she had to take a leave of absence to work full-time and earn more money. So I am very aware of how lucky I am. How much investing do you do, if any? I don't do any - I should really look into it. Do you actively contribute to a retirement account of any sort? Only the 401(k) at my previous company. Do you feel like your lifestyle reflects your income bracket? Yes! I am extremely frugal and very conscious of how I spend. Have you ever jumped income brackets (either going from low to high or vice versa) and how did your lifestyle change? I jumped income brackets when I changed jobs. My salary was pretty much cut by half when I moved to the new job. However, I do have greater job satisfaction at my new job and I do think I have greater career progression at the new one. My lifestyle didn't change at all - I'm still as frugal as ever! Do you talk to your peers and family about money? I only talk to my mom and boyfriend. And recently, I began talking to my sister about money and what her financial lifestyle is like. I'm personally very open to talking about money but it's something my friends and I never talk about. Do you worry about money? No, not really. I save a lot of money and really love what I'm doing so I know I'll always earn money. The only thing I don't like is that because I live in downtown SF, I can’t afford what I would be able to in the Midwest. Do you splurge on anything? If so, what was the last splurge and how much was it? My last splurge was my trip to Europe. I also like splurging on gifts to other people - I'll spend a decent amount for my boyfriend on his birthday and on Christmas gift for my family. Do you have a plan to make more money? I plan to continue working on the side as a college admissions consultant. I also hope to get a publishing deal and write a book on the college admissions process. I'm thinking of even creating a college admissions app, but that's something I haven't given too much thought to. What would it take for you to feel like you are completely rich? Having an independent business where I could support myself completely with admissions consulting! And having a house with a big backyard. In terms of money, what was something you did in the past that you could do differently? I would not have done so many unpaid journalism internships in college. I was too dead set on journalism at the time and now realize that my earning potential is so much higher than what they would have paid me. I really could have earned so much more doing other internships and should have realized this sooner. What is your strategy for moving forward now in regards to your big goals in life? I will continue to take on more clients as a college admissions consultant and hopefully grow this business as much as I can. This job provides a lot of flexibility as I work with a lot of people remotely. This flexibility will be great when I have kids someday. I do really love my job as a communications director now as well, and hope to continue building my career in the communications/marketing field. Who are you and how old are you: I am a 55-year-old tenured professor at a major Ivy League University on the East Coast. I also write books on the side and have a second career as a speaker/consultant in my field of study. Tell me about your background: I grew up in the Midwest, stayed in the Midwest for college and my masters degree, and then got my PhD on the West Coast. I've taught at three major Ivy League schools, and stayed put at the third one. I've very well-known in my field of research and run a relatively well-known lab. Tell me about your money. How much do you make? Between $200,000 - $300,000 a year from my university salary. Add on another $50,000 - $300,000 every year from consulting/royalties/speaking fees. A lot of my annual earning power comes down to hustling. If I hustled more, I would make more but it would probably affect my work performance at school. How do you define rich? Having enough money so that for normal things (meals, tickets, vacation trips), you never have to ask what it costs. You can always travel first class without having to ask about how much it is. It's knowing that you had enough money in enough different places and in varying levels of liquidity so that if disaster strikes in any form, you’ll always be okay and prepared. Did you grow up with money? How did your childhood conditions about money affect how you behave? No, I definitely did not grow up with money. My dad worked in the muffin line of a commercial baking company and my mom was a legal secretary. We were very much lower middle class. During Christmas, my parents used to buy used games or toys at rummage sales and mom would wrap them up in saran wrap and use a hair dryer to tighten up a the saran wrap so that it would look more new. My parents were extreme savers. When I was eight years old, my dad was laid off for 4-8 months and we struggled through that time. We went to the local food pantry, had pancakes a lot for breakfast, ate weird parts of chicken for dinner and had lots and lots of white bread. This really incentivized them to save. They put a lot of money away in banks and invested in bonds. They were very financially conservative. To this day, I don’t order a cheeseburger in a fast food restaurant without asking how much it costs. I will always ask if there are refills on diet coke. Otherwise, I won’t get it unless it’s priced under a dollar. Growing up in such a household made me very frugal and conscious with how I spent or saved my money. Did your parents give you money when you were growing up? What about for school? My parents gave me a weekly allowance (started at $0.25/week and eventually went up to $1.25/week) for doing household chores. From 11 years old and on, I had summer jobs, which included detassling corn, selling vegetables door to door, and mowing lawns. I wasn’t encouraged to go to college because parents didn’t have money saved for college. The only reason I went was because when I was 17 (this was in 1977), I won a $500 junior achievement award for winning a business trivial contest. I then chose the cheapest college I could find so that my $500 winnings would cover the annual tuition. Do you still have school loans? No - I've never had school loans. I sold Amway to make money on the side which paid for my entire college tuition. When I attended my masters program, I had a 20 hour/week job where I reviewed resumes and worked as a fraternity adviser. This (along with my Amway sales) paid for my masters program. During my PhD program, my tuition was paid for and I got a $1000/month stipend which paid for room and board. I lived in a mobile trailer for a few years to save on rent costs. It's not as bad as it sounds. Where did you learn about investing? In college, I would go to the library and read books on investing. That's where I first learned about investing. Two book that come to mind includes Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill and More Wealth Without Risk by Charles Givens. What does your family situation look like? I have three children, aged 10, 8, and 6. They are lots of fun. I also had a cat for ten years but she sadly passed away a few years ago. My parents are in their mid-80s and still living in the Midwest. How much do you spend on your children every month? How does that break down? I'm not too sure about this and my numbers are probably going to be incorrect but I'd say that $500 is spent on each child per month. There's $200 for lessons (ballet, piano), $150 for food, and $150 on other miscellaneous expenses. But again, I'm really not sure about this. Have you started to put money away for their college tuition? If so, how much is it? I started two 529 plans titled “Child 1” and “Child 2” when I was 31 years old and deposited $1000/year for each account. I stopped contributing to both funds when I didn't get tenure at my first teaching job and only began contributing again to both accounts in the recent years. Each account has around $20,000 now. I just started a 529 plan for my youngest child this past summer. How did your financial lifestyle change when you had children? Life became boring. I couldn't really spend money going out or going on vacations. When I was single and making decent money, I bought a lot of weird stuff. I really like WWII collectibles and bought a ton on ebay. I've probably spent over $20,000 on this stuff over the course of ten years. Are you still living paycheck to paycheck? If not, do you feel that way due to your lifestyle? No, I've never lived paycheck to paycheck because I saved money all the time. I always had a six-month cushion. What was your best purchase? The first house I ever bought when I turned 30. It was in the town where I got my first tenure-track teaching job and buying the house made me feel like I had finally "made it" and was a real adult. When I didn't get tenure, I had to leave town relatively fast and so I sold my house. I didn't make any money on it because I had to leave in a hurry but it holds a great deal of sentimental memories for me. What was your most regrettable purchase? A home I bought on the East Coast when I moved there for a teaching job. I overpaid for it because at the time, I was very busy with other things (recovering from knee surgery, moving to a new school, didn't want to rent a place, etc) and hurriedly chose the house. Even though I've since moved to a new house, I haven't been able to sell the first house and am still stuck with it. Do you feel like your success now has anything to do with luck or being in the right place at the right time? I attribute most of my success to God. I have a very deterministic view - a lot of the things that people would chalk up to luck, I attribute to a divine force. How much investing do you do, if any? I bought some Apple stock in the early 2000s, when the iMac G3 came out. I really admire Steve Jobs and wanted to invest in his company. I also invest in mutual funds and real estate buildings. How much do you have in your retirement account and do you actively contribute to it? I probably have around $1 million in my retirement account and max out my 403(b). Do you talk to your peers and family about money? I talk to my parents, brother and accountant. But other than that, I don't really talk to anyone about money. Academics talk very little about money - they are not into conspicuous consumption. My business friends talk about money all the time though. They're two very different crowds. Do you worry about money? I don't worry about my personal funds but I worry about having enough money for my school lab. The lab employs around 20 people and our budget is in the millions. I am always concerned about whether we will have enough to create the impact that I want. Do you feel like your lifestyle reflects your income bracket? No, I’m not into conspicuous consumption. Being raised frugally had a huge effect on my lifestyle. I feel that people who make half or even 1/3rd of what I do live a much more extravagant lifestyle. How are you teaching your kids about money? By often telling them there’s a lot they can’t have (iTunes apps, buying stuff at stores) or can’t do. They’re not spoiled at all. Do you splurge on anything? If so, what was the last splurge and how much was it? When I achieve something great at work (I get a major paper publication in one of the top two academic journals), I would reward myself by buying something new. This happens maybe once a year. The last example was buying myself a nice piece of leather luggage that cost $2000 although I did wait for it to go on sale for $1300 before I bought it. Do you pay attention to money or personal finance at all? I'm more conscious of day to day stuff (how much does adding extra cheese on my burger cost) but lose sight of the bigger picture sometimes (how are my retirement accounts looking). Do you have a plan to make more money? Yes, I'm in the process of starting a business around a book I recently wrote and am currently looking to hire a CEO to grow the business. What would it take for you to feel like you are completely rich? $25 - $30 million. My reasoning for this is strange. I like checking out websites like celebritynetworth.com and finding actors that are around my age and look like me. I see how much they're worth and think that I should be worth that much. In terms of money, if you could go back in the past, what is something you would have done differently? I would have always maxed out my accounts like the ROTH IRA, 403(b), tax deferred accounts, etc. I travel a lot for business and even though my costs are reimbursed, I often lose receipts or don't turn in my expenses on time. I would have made sure that I got every dollar reimbursed as quickly as possible. I also would have hired financial consultants that weren’t in the business of selling something or the other. And lastly, I wouldn't have given away IP related to my work. I've lost money that way in the past and it was a tough lesson to learn. What is your strategy for moving forward now in regards to your big financial goals in life? Max out as much money as possible for retirement, get all my business receipts reimbursed as quickly as possible, and focus much more on generating money through my business. |
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